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TirexMan
20th October 2008, 04:08
Hi everyone, I am new to this forum. I have a question and would like to see where everyone stands on this.
Lets compare the world as a whole to a smaller place in an ecosystem. Lets say the maximum amount of deer in particular alloted, closed off forest, is 200. This forest supports 200 deer stability for a long period of time because of the self supporting ecosystem. Lets say a huge amount of food is dumped in that forest that only the deer eat. So the deer breed out of control and eat all the food, that food is gone and with a population of 2000 deer all the rest of potential food will be gone also. So the deer starve and die in huge quantities and after the damage they did on the environment, it supports only 20 deer now.

Since this same logic can be applied to humans and the world, why would we be worrying about something as seemingly trivial as abortion being legal or not? shouldn't space exploration be a bigger priority? Or at least more of an attention to what we are doing to the planet we are living on?

I really ask this because I do not understand your positions on this. Please help me here.

P.S. Sorry If wrong place!

Nutty Grandad
5th November 2008, 14:19
Hey man

Very valid point and certainly thought provoking!!

Come on Guys...lets see some answers!

BtNt2Nyt
3rd July 2009, 21:36
I just returned to the forum and noticed this was posted in 2008. If anyone should read, I apologise for my absence and delay to respond;

regarding concern over abortion v. space exploration; those are two different philosophies with how to resolve a situation. Concentrating on space exploration "fixes" the problem of using up all the resources by abandoning the area and moving on - doomed to commit the same atrocity - or allow it to happen. If you have another place to move to then why not take the easier route of just moving on? - deplorable (in my opinion). That is how criminals live. Comparing us to Deer is not plausible. We evolved into affecting our surrounding by more than just mere survival. Animals respond to survival instincts. You didn't mention how the "extra food" was suddenly thrust upon the Deer population. Regardless, we as humans need to stop the actions that cause the ecosystem problem. Find the solution BEFORE we move on to extra terrestrial habitation so we DON"T repeat history and screw up again. We can do that while Deer cannot. At least not until they evolve into a higher level of consciousness and cognitive thinking.

Abortion has so many affected issues beyond global congestion that to reflect on just one specific issue, contributing to the overtaxing of an ecosystem, is impossible. Since it's your topic lets give it a try: selective birth to control overpopulation: ask China how that worked for them (limiting a married couple just one offspring) - or better yet ask the unknown murdered female infants just so the parents could try again for that all to important male child (carrying on the family name sure is important). Instead of limiting childbirth or mandatory abortion why not start to terminate the elderly? They've already done their damage to the world and often times have stopped contributing to the evolution process (think punishment and being a non contributing member of society). What could be a good cutoff age? 50?, 60? There was a movie called "Logans Run" - everyone that reaches their 30th birthday is terminated. This would promote only fresh thinkers and a society of healthy persons that wouldn't presumably tax our healthcare and social system. Movie was good - idea horrendous.
Maybe we can start to abort childbirth so there's one male for every female and then we can bring back arranged marriages. Then we could only allow certain couples to procreate - only the best will have the best offspring. That is reminiscent of racial cleansing - just ask Adolph Hitler - deplorable.
To sum up my rather long winded post; Space Exploration and Abortion have their spots for discussion and have their influence on man and earth alike, just not in the same category...